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Scalia “You Can’t Say It’s Torture” 2-13-08

Posted on February 13, 2008
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Scalia Says He Sees a Role for Physical Interrogations


By REUTERS  February 13, 2008


WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Justice Antonin Scalia
said Tuesday that some physical interrogation techniques could be used
on a suspect in the event of an imminent threat, like a hidden bomb
about to blow up.

In such cases, “smacking someone in the face” could be justified,
Justice Scalia told the British Broadcasting Corporation. He added,
“You can’t come in smugly and with great self-satisfaction and say,
“Oh, it’s torture, and therefore it’s no good.” “

His comments come amid a growing debate about the Bush
administration’s use of aggressive interrogation methods on terrorism
suspects, including the widely condemned waterboarding, soon after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Justice Scalia, speaking in an interview with “Law in Action,” a
program on BBC Radio 4, said it would be “extraordinary” to assume that
the Constitution’s ban on cruel and unusual punishment applied to
“so-called” torture in the face of imminent threat. He said that the
Constitution “is referring to punishment for crime.”

“And, for example, incarcerating someone indefinitely would certainly be cruel and unusual punishment for a crime,” he said.

But “is it really so easy,” he said, “to determine that smacking
someone in the face to determine where he has hidden the bomb that is
about to blow up Los Angeles is prohibited in the Constitution?”

“It would be absurd to say you couldn’t do that,” the justice said.
“And once you acknowledge that, we”re into a different game. How close
does the threat have to be? And how severe can the infliction of pain
be?”

Justice Scalia also ridiculed European criticism of the death penalty in the United States.

“If you took a public opinion poll, if all of Europe had
representative democracies that really worked, most of Europe would
probably have the death penalty today,” he said.

“There are arguments for it and against it,” he said. “But to get
self-righteous about the thing as Europeans tend to do about the
American death penalty is really quite ridiculous.”

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